Prison Industrial Complex Diaries (installation view)



One of the central ideas behind the Recording Carceral Landscapes project is that mass incarceration is a social and cultural “machine” that runs throughout society. The Prison Industrial Complex is, in fact, very complex. The PIC does not exist somewhere “out there” but is woven into the fabric of everyday life.

In each of these conversations with prominent prison activists, a different aspect of the Prison Industrial Complex is taken up. Prof. Ruth Wilson Gilmore talks about the roots of the PIC in slavery, the convict lease system, and the Military Industrial Complex. Rose Braz describes the political scene in Sacramento, California and explains how decisions about prisons get made in government. Craig Gilmore talks about California’s rural areas and the effects of the California prison boom on the Central Valley. Dr. Terry Kupers takes up the question of the Security Housing Unit (the notorious “supermax” prison model) and explains how torture became normal in U.S. prisons. Finally, Rachel Herzing talks about prison abolition and what it means to imagine a world without prisons.

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From Military Industrial Complex to Prison Industrial Complex

Prof. Ruth Wilson Gilmore
discusses the Military Industrial Complex and the Prison Industrial Complex.

All About Sacramento

Rose Braz discusses the legislative process, state politics, and Sacramento.

California's Hinterlands

Craig Gilmore talks about the impact of mass incarceration on the economy, environment, and politics of rural California.

How We Got The Security Housing Unit

Terry Kupers, M.D. in conversation about the advent of the "supermax" prison, and the limits of the courts.

Abolishing the Prison Industrial Complex

Rachel Herzing talks about abolishing the Prison Industrial Complex.


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